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point, there's going to be a rehearing conference at the california pu next week and that will give us a update, we don't expect to see a puc on this green tariff option until 2014, although there isn't an all party settlement, there are parties included in talk to pg and influence. >> can you describe a bit more about what type of service they're going to have, so if a person signs up for their green e energy certified renewable energy program, are they receiving 100% of their actual electricity needs through this service or u.s. j u.s. getting a portion that's getting 100% energy. >> as i understand it, those customers will receive the pg and e portfolio, soit's renewable at about 19%, a large portion of large hydro and nuclear and then the balance provided by other power sources like natural gas. when you sign up for green e, what pg and e is proposing to do is to buy their green e certificates to green up or cover, if you will, the natural gas fired portion, the nuclear portion, the hydro portion of the service, so that it would become a 100% renewable product, but only that 19 or
point, there's going to be a rehearing conference at the california pu next week and that will give us a update, we don't expect to see a puc on this green tariff option until 2014, although there isn't an all party settlement, there are parties included in talk to pg and influence. >> can you describe a bit more about what type of service they're going to have, so if a person signs up for their green e energy certified renewable energy program, are they receiving 100% of their actual...
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now, many of us have come from the community and explained to you that the southest sector is not only a bay view but district 910 and 11 has been adversely impacted. and, we know just because of the nature of the water system improvement project, that type of project and that type of outreach was different from what is what should be done with the sewer system improvement project and i have been saying this for a long time and i really miss the gentlemen who was on the commission richard straw, i really miss him because, when you spoke to him, he really understood what were the needs of the community. so, when puc didn't listen to us and wanted to place three combustion turbine and is we the people fought it and won, p. kruvment wassen lightened now we have other project and some of you commissioners have spoken about it in a forth right manner and some of you have not and the end result is this: when we dot analysis: do we consult who are adversely impacted for over 60 years do we consult them don't think they are ignorant. they are as statute in other ways and so when we attend add
now, many of us have come from the community and explained to you that the southest sector is not only a bay view but district 910 and 11 has been adversely impacted. and, we know just because of the nature of the water system improvement project, that type of project and that type of outreach was different from what is what should be done with the sewer system improvement project and i have been saying this for a long time and i really miss the gentlemen who was on the commission richard...
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. >> use it for whatever you want to do, you can do it here. >> on friday, november 16th, the dedication and ribbon cutting took place at the sunset playground and recreation center celebrating its renovation. it was raining, but the rain clearly did not dampen the spirits of the dignitaries, community members, and children in attendance. [cheering and applauding] ♪ ♪ >> . >> [sound of gavel] the commission will come to order. secretary president torres. here. vice president doury commission moran. commission toest is skewedded from todayth meeting. >> all right we have a quorum public comment please? mr. costa welcome. >>> i wanted to come over here and speak in a manner that is forthright. so, some of you received my articles and if you read my articles, the many point is that we serve the community. and what is hooping in the various departments including the s f g o c is that in certain areas, we lack standards. new commissioners know because of your experience that ethics, morals, standards, count. when we do not pay attention to that, and matter go before the ethics commission,
. >> use it for whatever you want to do, you can do it here. >> on friday, november 16th, the dedication and ribbon cutting took place at the sunset playground and recreation center celebrating its renovation. it was raining, but the rain clearly did not dampen the spirits of the dignitaries, community members, and children in attendance. [cheering and applauding] ♪ ♪ >> . >> [sound of gavel] the commission will come to order. secretary president torres. here. vice...
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so i'm really happy to see this come before us and happy to support this as well. any other commentses or questions? let's take a vote on this item. >> motion to approve this. >> second. >> with a first and second, and any member of public wishing to comment on the item (roll call vote ) that is four ayes and item 7 is approved. >> thank you. can we please move to item no. 8. >> item no. 8 is approving the updated initial projects report and a resolution of project compliance with for the allocation of regional measure 1/ab funds in amount of $47,800,000 for the transit center program >> sarah will report on this item. >> directors this is the standard compliancing. this particular allocation allows us to certify and issue an ntp for the first portion of the structural steel contract. as we have done in the past with mtc, when we have the land sale funds available from the close of the tower parcel t, we would actually rescind whatever we haven't spent and return it to mtc and would be available for a future allocation. so this is $47.8 million in funds to be deter
so i'm really happy to see this come before us and happy to support this as well. any other commentses or questions? let's take a vote on this item. >> motion to approve this. >> second. >> with a first and second, and any member of public wishing to comment on the item (roll call vote ) that is four ayes and item 7 is approved. >> thank you. can we please move to item no. 8. >> item no. 8 is approving the updated initial projects report and a resolution of project...
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and the market received us very, very well. we saved rate payers over $150 million because of the aggressive bidding buyers wanted to buy san francisco sewer bonds. we achieved foreign rates at about 3.58%. so, while julie and i give you the good news and the bad news, we're balancing the budget and we want to do that to make sure rates stay as affordable as we can. >> another option we would have, too, supervisor, we have an ongoing capital program for our water enterprise and there's been question that some of the improvements in that program could be deferred slightly and some of the wsip improvements could be moved into that program. not to surpass the budget of the wsip. so, there's a few options we can look at once we determine exactly where we stand budget wise. >> earlier in the project we were seeing much lower construction costs than we had anticipated. how are thing looking now in terms of construction costs? >> very good question. the most recent bid we got was a smaller pipeline project, but still a project worth a
and the market received us very, very well. we saved rate payers over $150 million because of the aggressive bidding buyers wanted to buy san francisco sewer bonds. we achieved foreign rates at about 3.58%. so, while julie and i give you the good news and the bad news, we're balancing the budget and we want to do that to make sure rates stay as affordable as we can. >> another option we would have, too, supervisor, we have an ongoing capital program for our water enterprise and there's...
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i am used to that part. bicyclists are pushing to do this and that; they do not follow any rules of the road. i would like for you to do something.
i am used to that part. bicyclists are pushing to do this and that; they do not follow any rules of the road. i would like for you to do something.
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so, we expect that will cost us about $50,000. and then as part of the state's solution of redevelopment, one of the com poets of that was that agreements between city agencies and redevelopment agencies were not binding contractual agreements. our redevelopment agency made a number of commitments over the years to support funding for the bayview opera house, and that has not been able to be sustained. and, so, in order to keep that project moving we're recommending funding for that project as well. you can see the last point here. [speaker not understood] commission does have within their existing reserves sufficient funds to support child care programs within the existing budget. as i mentioned, we are in support of the budget analyst recommendations. happy to answer any questions or to ask my colleagues to do the same. >> supervisor avalos. >> just a quick question about the bayview opera house. didn't we approve funding for that last year as well to complete renovation? and how is it that -- i didn't expect there was going to
so, we expect that will cost us about $50,000. and then as part of the state's solution of redevelopment, one of the com poets of that was that agreements between city agencies and redevelopment agencies were not binding contractual agreements. our redevelopment agency made a number of commitments over the years to support funding for the bayview opera house, and that has not been able to be sustained. and, so, in order to keep that project moving we're recommending funding for that project as...
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option of purchasing that site and running it ourselves, i think that could be a really good eligible use for any funds that we have, to have our own power system, we can help to ramp up. >> that's a great recommendation, thank you, and then as you know, puc is in the beginning phases of its sewer system improvement program and are trying to integrate some of the innovative technology resource recovery and the waste water process, so some ideas around that, and then i think one thing we were really pleased about is that last year when the legislature did their initial bills around happen trade revenue allocation, there is a requirement that up to 25% of dollars be spent in disadvantaged communities, historically, san francisco, the definition of disadvantaged communities that the state uses is one that keeps income relative to the state and so we often don't count as a disadvantaged community though we have many neighborhood that are struggling, i think the definition they're using for disadvantaged communities in the context of cap and trade dollars, the bayview hunter's point community
option of purchasing that site and running it ourselves, i think that could be a really good eligible use for any funds that we have, to have our own power system, we can help to ramp up. >> that's a great recommendation, thank you, and then as you know, puc is in the beginning phases of its sewer system improvement program and are trying to integrate some of the innovative technology resource recovery and the waste water process, so some ideas around that, and then i think one thing we...
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and so this would allow us to continue the program with those projects. as we were going through the process, and thinking about the changes to the definition of the "pc lbe regional projectsing." we thought it made sense to add the sect change, which is that any projects 70 miles outside of san francisco, even if they are not a cost-share projecting, meaning that they are funded by city and county of san francisco. we want to extend the puc lbe discount. the thinking behind that provision is because the pc lbe program really applies on the construction side, projects that are that distance away from san francisco, that the travel costs and the travel implications for local business enterprises sort of makes it not worth it. if they do compete for those projects, they would continue to get the lbe benefits that they would -- that they typically. as far as the amendments that supervisor chiu is recommending, one is a non-substantive technical amendment. where environmental findings are required. so there is a small non-substantive technical amendment and w
and so this would allow us to continue the program with those projects. as we were going through the process, and thinking about the changes to the definition of the "pc lbe regional projectsing." we thought it made sense to add the sect change, which is that any projects 70 miles outside of san francisco, even if they are not a cost-share projecting, meaning that they are funded by city and county of san francisco. we want to extend the puc lbe discount. the thinking behind that...
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and we had decisions like this all the time to come before us. i think a majority of our decisions, we decide we're not going to be able to fund [speaker not understood] perhaps a superfluous type of activities. so, i don't feel comfortable supporting these leases. but i'm willing to send this to the full board without recommendation so the board can take a whack at it. i'm okay with that. it's not a whole lot of money. me personally, it's not something i feel comfortable with. >> thank you. last question. we now have a bit of -- i think you said earlier, but a bit of inconsistency how we're dealing with some leases and how we're deal with others with nonprofits involved. could you talk a little bit more about that, kind of the policy and rationale behind it, how the mta thinks about that? if we terminate the lease yesterday for the fillmore farrell garage, and now we're coming forward approving these leases again. can you talk about the difference? >> yes. each garage and the corporations have evolved differently over time. [speaker not understo
and we had decisions like this all the time to come before us. i think a majority of our decisions, we decide we're not going to be able to fund [speaker not understood] perhaps a superfluous type of activities. so, i don't feel comfortable supporting these leases. but i'm willing to send this to the full board without recommendation so the board can take a whack at it. i'm okay with that. it's not a whole lot of money. me personally, it's not something i feel comfortable with. >> thank...
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and we have today with us ben latimer. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure, good to see you. >> we're going to talk about things that you might do ... >> hi, i'm with building san francisco. and we have a special program of stay safe today where we're going to talk about what you can do to your home after an earthquake to make it waterproof and to be more comfortable. we're here at spur in san francisco, this wonderful exhibit of safe enough to stay. and this is an example of what your home might be like after an earthquake. and we have today with us ben latimer from tvan. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> we'll talk about things you can do you don't have to be a professional contractor to make your home more livable after an earthquake. >> i want to talk about things a homeowner can do. we have comfort and we have things like a little bit of maybe safety if your front door is ajar and waterproofing if you have a leak in your roof, or if you have broken glass on the window. >> so unr, one of the most importan
and we have today with us ben latimer. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure, good to see you. >> we're going to talk about things that you might do ... >> hi, i'm with building san francisco. and we have a special program of stay safe today where we're going to talk about what you can do to your home after an earthquake to make it waterproof and to be more comfortable. we're here at spur in san francisco, this wonderful exhibit of safe enough to stay. and this is an...
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some is used by the city but there is excess as i understand and the other item brought to us after lafco met by supervisor kim's office is about parking meters. this is an on going discussion we had and that staff had other meetings and there are other issues and at least now i suggest holding off on that until we get direction exactly what the supervisor's office is looking for us to do on the project so those are the quick items. what i would suggest doing since cca is going to be a big item and continue to be i imagine the remainder of the year we have -- there are going to be times there is not as much work to be done and i can find interns to supplement the research and we work on the appointment of elected officers seem to be the one with most interest from the commissioners of trying to do something immediately on that, and that we start doing research into how that would work and i could create a study format and work with folks on that item. >> commissioner campos. >> thank you mr. chair and i want to thank our staff for the work they have done around this issue. i think that th
some is used by the city but there is excess as i understand and the other item brought to us after lafco met by supervisor kim's office is about parking meters. this is an on going discussion we had and that staff had other meetings and there are other issues and at least now i suggest holding off on that until we get direction exactly what the supervisor's office is looking for us to do on the project so those are the quick items. what i would suggest doing since cca is going to be a big item...
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you will be the facilities use agreement that accompanies each of those offer us and will be able to review and ratify those agreements sometime after may 1 whtd process is finished. >> i have one speaker card on this item. i'm not sure if she is still here. hillary harmsome. thank you. >> thank you so much for your time tonight. good evening president norton, superintendent and commissioners and district staff. i am hillary harmsome. good pronunciation. i am with the charter school association and behalf to speak for the member schools and our concern about the proposed increase. as a professional organization for charterer public schools our role is help charters navigate their unique challenges. two challenges that come up again and again they receive less money than traditional schools and limited access to affordable quality facilities. they're public school students and observe equitable access to facilities and they're required to provide the facilities equal to other schools. historical sfusd has offered fair rates on to schools with facilities and allowing them to have a hea
you will be the facilities use agreement that accompanies each of those offer us and will be able to review and ratify those agreements sometime after may 1 whtd process is finished. >> i have one speaker card on this item. i'm not sure if she is still here. hillary harmsome. thank you. >> thank you so much for your time tonight. good evening president norton, superintendent and commissioners and district staff. i am hillary harmsome. good pronunciation. i am with the charter school...
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schools would need to divert funds that are used for teachers and books and learning materials. the proposed increase to $2.79 would further widen the gap between traditional public schools and charter schools. while charter schools are publicly funded stpds show they're significant lie under funded compared to traditional schools. in conclusion we respect that charter schools asking for facilities be provided with the legal rational for the 180 increase and we would greatly appreciate the opportunity to talk about the rational and impact of the increase. we understand there are numerous costs with facilities and maintenance and we look for that and the anticipate costs over the next few years. thank you very much. >> thank you. any questions or comments from board members? >> commissioner, this increase will eventually in the two years amount to how much money? >> in the current year we will collect exclusive of metro because they're not under prop 39 but we have a five year lease from them. we will collect about $270,000 so in the following year we go to 550 and after that go
schools would need to divert funds that are used for teachers and books and learning materials. the proposed increase to $2.79 would further widen the gap between traditional public schools and charter schools. while charter schools are publicly funded stpds show they're significant lie under funded compared to traditional schools. in conclusion we respect that charter schools asking for facilities be provided with the legal rational for the 180 increase and we would greatly appreciate the...
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this gets us to a place we have 51% renewable generation in the city. that is amazing. we should look at that and wow how they doing that and still competitive with pg&e rates? and i think it's different from the enabling legislation for the contract it's hard to wrap our heads around t i was happy to hear ms. miller to come up with solutions and look at other things and this is a larger program and looking at others to come up with a solution is a great idea but i would like to hear more things like that from lafco. i think it's the role of the agency to serve as the positive, to move the paths between complicated and sometimes opposite opinions and i know it's challenging and we need to rely on puc for experts on the program but there is value what we're paying local power to do and i think it's a way to get beyond the arguments this is just doubling the rates. this say program for people that can afford to pay the premium cost. the work is innovative and i am start to appreciate looking at other national models. they're really in the forefront of what is going on and
this gets us to a place we have 51% renewable generation in the city. that is amazing. we should look at that and wow how they doing that and still competitive with pg&e rates? and i think it's different from the enabling legislation for the contract it's hard to wrap our heads around t i was happy to hear ms. miller to come up with solutions and look at other things and this is a larger program and looking at others to come up with a solution is a great idea but i would like to hear more...
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we use blue. >> i'm looking forward to red for valentine's day. >>> we already use pink for the minutes. >> we ran out of blue. >>> okay, and blue is very important to this agency, so, you know. >> i'm learning every day what's important to this agency. >>> interest you go. >> use red for the budget. >>> yes, the budget we don't want to be. my other comment was related to employee conduct. there was an article in yesterday's paper about employee conduct that's inappropriate and that staff is taking that very seriously. i believe that is true. i believe with an agency this big spread over as many counties that we are that it is entirely possible that people occasionally do the wrong thing. but i know that things are taken very seriously in hr and elsewhere within the organization where something is found, it is corrected. and when there are internal controls to be fixed, nancy and todd and the rest of the gang take care of that. and i have very good faith in the organization to take care of employee conduct. so, i did want to make a note of that and my support for the process moving forw
we use blue. >> i'm looking forward to red for valentine's day. >>> we already use pink for the minutes. >> we ran out of blue. >>> okay, and blue is very important to this agency, so, you know. >> i'm learning every day what's important to this agency. >>> interest you go. >> use red for the budget. >>> yes, the budget we don't want to be. my other comment was related to employee conduct. there was an article in yesterday's paper...
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facility use fees. mr. superintendent, do you have a staff person? >> yes president norton i would like to ask michael davis to please come up and take us through this item. >> thank you. good evening superintendent, commissioners. my prior agreement i think deputy superintendent lee wanted to start. never mind. i will do it myself. what you have before you is an information item regarding pro rata share fees that we allowed to charge our charter schools that receive property from us under prop 39. we've had the same fee of 95 cents per square foot for over five years. it was last reviewed in 2009-10 and we kept it at that same amount then. various groups from departments have reviewed the fees in line with the regulations in title v of the california code of regulations that stipulate how we can calculate the fee, so the basic framework is that we looked at the entire square footage of school facilities in the district inventory. we looked at the total unrestricted fund cost applicable to those facilities and come up with a per square foot fee we co
facility use fees. mr. superintendent, do you have a staff person? >> yes president norton i would like to ask michael davis to please come up and take us through this item. >> thank you. good evening superintendent, commissioners. my prior agreement i think deputy superintendent lee wanted to start. never mind. i will do it myself. what you have before you is an information item regarding pro rata share fees that we allowed to charge our charter schools that receive property from...
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to develop it or use it for anything but what it is being used for today, correct? >> that's correct, there are limitations given the actual facilities underground as well as the rights to traverse the property. so, the parking lot is actually the best use. >> okay, thank you. colleagues, any questions for mr. updike of the puc? okay, thank you very much. to the budget and legislative analyst. >> mr. chair, members of the committee, as mr. updike has indicated, the first year rent under the proposed lease is 52,3 24. that's 4,141 or 8.6% more than the existing annual rent which is currently on a month-to-month basis of 48,183. under the -- and that was based on an appraisal and it's considered to be fill market valued. that has been reported to our office. as you can see on table 1 on page 39 of our report, that for the first four years the estimated rent given the 4% increase is payable to the puc would be about $222,192. we recommend you approve this resolution. >> okay, thank you. colleagues, any questions? okay, thank you very much. at this point i'd like to ope
to develop it or use it for anything but what it is being used for today, correct? >> that's correct, there are limitations given the actual facilities underground as well as the rights to traverse the property. so, the parking lot is actually the best use. >> okay, thank you. colleagues, any questions for mr. updike of the puc? okay, thank you very much. to the budget and legislative analyst. >> mr. chair, members of the committee, as mr. updike has indicated, the first year...
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here my understanding is there is some flexibility in how much is recoupd and depending how you use that flexibility that could impact rates so i am wondering if you could say something about that and what the thinking is around that issue? >> yes. you will recall when the board considered the program in august the board directed us to -- i can't quote the language, but the basic message was to the extent feasible let's try and recover the dedicated funds. excuse me. what we presented as staff to the rate fairness board was full recovery of all of the funds during the first four and a half years of the program. of course the quicker you recover those funds the more a rate bump it has on the program, so the board dialogue has been around can we extend out how long we give ourselves to recover those funds? and i think under the adopted board direction, yes we can, and then the issue is. okay. if we want to by how much? and those are some of the questions we're addressing with the rate fairness board and we will present it to our commission similarly to say the rate that we are proposi
here my understanding is there is some flexibility in how much is recoupd and depending how you use that flexibility that could impact rates so i am wondering if you could say something about that and what the thinking is around that issue? >> yes. you will recall when the board considered the program in august the board directed us to -- i can't quote the language, but the basic message was to the extent feasible let's try and recover the dedicated funds. excuse me. what we presented as...
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and i want to thank you, sweetheart, for working with us and doing the best that you can. and like i stated to you, i will be watching your back. and you have staff that will be watching your back because we love what puc was put here to do and we will be working with all of you. and thank you all again so much. and thank you for coming, my prayers and my family for coming today. (applause) l >> we'll have ann sign it the next meeting. >> thank you, espinola, for your consistent humility and modesty. please continue. >> so, the next item is [speaker not understood] update on the [speaker not understood] program. >> we're sorry you couldn't connect the computer. i'm not sure what dr. jackson's secret is, but i sure would like to look like that at the age of 80. so, okay, we're up. so, today i will give you an update basically on the -- that covers the last three months of 2002. >> 12. >> and this is the chart you used to receive. as of the end of the reporting period we were 70% complete with the program and now we're -- staff is approaching the 75% completion date. 17 proj
and i want to thank you, sweetheart, for working with us and doing the best that you can. and like i stated to you, i will be watching your back. and you have staff that will be watching your back because we love what puc was put here to do and we will be working with all of you. and thank you all again so much. and thank you for coming, my prayers and my family for coming today. (applause) l >> we'll have ann sign it the next meeting. >> thank you, espinola, for your consistent...
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now we're going to repair the sea wall and it requires one of the use of the lanes. the work is being quickly accomplished and it will be occurring over the next three weeks so from peer 38 to bryant street will be closed for the next three weeks to be opened again on monday march 4th. i think it's important to repair the sea wall and protect that area from rising sea levels. we beg everyone to be patient. and then lately it's with great pride we're nearing completion of our terminal. we'll have a completion of the building and it will go forward to host the 34 cup appears on 27 and 29. i hope everyone can join us at peer 37 with the ribbon cutting with the america's cup. we looking forward to seeing everyone there. and congratulations to all the work crews that have helped to get us to this point. i hope everyone enjoys the building as much as i do. that includes my report >> any public comment? hearing none, we'll move open >> and the 1 hundred and 50 selection in the maritime port. >> commissioners i'd like to introduce our public relations officer and he drew the
now we're going to repair the sea wall and it requires one of the use of the lanes. the work is being quickly accomplished and it will be occurring over the next three weeks so from peer 38 to bryant street will be closed for the next three weeks to be opened again on monday march 4th. i think it's important to repair the sea wall and protect that area from rising sea levels. we beg everyone to be patient. and then lately it's with great pride we're nearing completion of our terminal. we'll...
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it is important we recognize everybody mixes us up with the criminal grand jury. now we know what the civil grand jury is. thank you. i do have a message of thanks from theedthv the president of the california grand jurors association. unfortunately because of health reasons i cannot attend the grand jury public service announcement narrated by the lieutenant governor gavin newsome. so i cannot be here personally to thank you, i use this message to relay my appreciation and thanks as the president of the california grand jurors association to all those involved in the creation, production and ultimate distribution of the psa. i hope you liked it by the way, when you watched it. >> they did a great job. it was great. [laughter] >> first and foremost we thank the lieutenant governor, the star of the production, for lending his presence, prestige, and stature and or -- or ratory to the project. ken mali, script writer, director and producer brought this idea to reality. * we also acknowledge and thank the man behind the camera, richard. and who edited and filmed the
it is important we recognize everybody mixes us up with the criminal grand jury. now we know what the civil grand jury is. thank you. i do have a message of thanks from theedthv the president of the california grand jurors association. unfortunately because of health reasons i cannot attend the grand jury public service announcement narrated by the lieutenant governor gavin newsome. so i cannot be here personally to thank you, i use this message to relay my appreciation and thanks as the...